A Prime Example: Meet Jann, Jay, and Joel the Musician
Posted by diehipster at 6/22/2008 7:11 PM and is filed under uncategorized 
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Thanks to the person who left this link in the comments section. Read this NYMag.com article and see how it relates to my last post. He (Joel) jumps from San Fran, to LA, to NYC, probably working in coffee shops, record stores, etc, claiming to be a musician. There's no mention of his parents financially supporting, or helping him in between bullshit jobs and gigs, but it's safe to say they are. You can see it in their faces. Hey Jann, why don't you tell all your friends at your knitting club to send their precious little Megans over to Bushwick for a year or two. Hey Jay, tomorrow, on the 16th hole, why don't you tell all your buddies to ship their Josh's and Zach's over to Greenpoint so us New Yorkers can finally get a taste of some up and coming progressive indie music. We are really lacking in culture over here. We need more of your 20-30 year old, liberal arts degree holding, super fashionable, ironically talented children to brighten up our city and show us how to be cool. I hear some apartments opened up in SSW Williamsburg and NNE Bushwick. |
Click here for the NY Mag Article.
Look at these hipsters: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25316068/
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Yes hipsters are everywhere. Basically anyone who embraces a youthful and edgy urban style, who enjoys going to rock shows and divey-type bars is labeled a hipster these days. These people represent a significant fraction of the under-30 population in this city who enjoy keeping up with the latest in nightlife, music, art, and culture. Hipterism is the new mainstream, and basically anyone with a healthy and active social life is a "hipster". It's irrelevant whether hipsters truly re-invented certain elements of culture and style, or if they're just cultural consumers and social leeches like others would retort. It's simply the new reality. Of course, anti-hipster ranters still shout "hipster" at anyone and everyone they don't agree with. If you own an Ipod, they will call you "hipster". If you've ever gone to Starbucks, they will call you "hipster". If you are a freelancer and have your own work hours, they will call you "hipster". If you own any clothing from a thrift store or have edgy urban fashion sensibilities, they will call you "hipster". If you listen to bands on an indie record label, they will call you "hipster". If your hair is a little messy or scruffy, they wil call you "hipster". If you drink cheap beer like PBR, they will call you "hipster". If you are vegan, they will call you "hipster". If you simply exist, they will call you "hipster".
Judging from their comments, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from "tough guy" non-intellectual homophobic macho types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. At some point in their lives they probably got mocked and ridiculed, or even had beer poured all over their heads, by some downtown girl with a tattoo (aka "hipster") after trying to pull some lame move on them. If you think about it, in some ways the entire hipster revolution came about to mock and ridicule such people and their mentalities. It's not about meat and muscle anymore. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.
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Your reply is as riveting as it has been the last 50 times I've read it.
How are hipsters "the latest" in music, art, etc. All they do is rip off things from the '80s in an "ironic" fashion. Playing 2 and 1/2 out-of-tune chords does not make you a musician.
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"Irony" and "Retro" are just two little words for "Nothing Original Any More".
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Hipterism is the new mainstream, therefore it is not hip but merely the new conformist bullshit. Hipsters are the new sheeple. Baaa baaa.
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Hey Copy-and-Paste boy, you are ridiculous. According to your MySpace page you are completely devoid of original thought, asking people to suggest music for you to listen to so you can fit in.
It's also funny how you say "Maybe I need to start watching foreign films" because you think that will make you seem cultured to some easily-impressed hipster girl (guy?)
I watch foreign films because I took the time to learn another language, something you fruity hipsters won't do, because it involves putting in the time to learn a skill.
And before you launch into your cut-and-pasted diatribe; it isn't sufficient to refute what I'm saying. Any time you'd like to have an intellectual debate, let me know. Go learn some hipster-approved buzzwords from your reject friends.
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Wow, that band looks like a product of a hipster marketing focus group!
Anorexic looking guy in pegged jeans? Check.
Prematurely balding geek with beard? Check.
Guy with "ironic" '70s mustache? Check.
Asian chick? Check.
How long, I wonder, before they move to Bushwick?
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Or the Great Hipster Fanny-Pack Robbery
http://www.nypress.com/blogx/display_blog.cfm?bid=78869618&day=18&startmonth=4&startyear=2008
Moments before Deacon’s exhilarating performance—which got someone as tightly wound as myself to dance—four Hispanic dudes entered the venue. Before that moment, I had felt like my companion and I were the ones who didn’t fit in, but these guys in their expensive baggy clothes obviously weren’t part of the intended clientele or demographic for this event.
Naturally, I was prejudiced against them, suspect of their motives for entering into this hipster Temple party. With the crowd, in tight, circled around Deacon, the party began, with everyone in the place dancing along. Even these “thugs” were dancing and seemed to be enjoying it.
Of course they were into it. We were easy prey. The geeky, scrawny white kids—many of which looked ridiculous—had their backs were turned, allowing these “thugs” to easily rummage through our bags that we naively expected to be safely stashed. My lady and I had let down our guards, in order to loosen up and have fun, but also because of our unwillingness to hold prejudiced feelings towards people based solely on how they looked. Though we were naïve enough to set down our bags, we kept a watchful eye on the culprits. Those watchful eyes watched those young assholes steal all of her cash (leaving her without a dime for food for the entire rest of the month) and a credit card. We acted just in time to grab our bags before they made with the big heist. The thief who had stolen my friend’s money had his hand on my camera bag, while we plucked it away without confrontation.
We quickly made our way to security to warn of the theft that had been taking place. The culprits were fully aware that they had been caught, and quickly made their way to an escape. While the security staff could have easily taken action and saved a lot of kids from the disappointment of losing a lot of money and valuables, they decided to let the thieves pass by unquestioned.
Why would the security guards do this?
Well, this event was taking place at a Masonic Temple, and the Masons have strong ties to moral ethics. While I’m not sure exactly what kind of excuse this was—especially since the security staff did not look like they’d be Masons (there’s that prejudice again)—but I’m pretty sure it has to do with blindly trusting people to act morally. This is all good and nice, but we clearly caught these guys who were obviously out of place there last night, and no action could be taken.
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Hipsters, expect more of this in the future as the police budget is slashed and stop and frisk declared unconstitutional. New York will become fun city once again.
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Wow a bunch of pendejo maricóns get robbed in fun city. That's just like shocking man.
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I don't think Joel's expression could be more smug without his face falling off in rejection of his body.
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As a macho, homophobic man I believe I would pour more than beer on your stupid heads. Your "divey" bars are havens for the locals you seek to displace. They don't want you there as much as you don't want to work for the Post Office. Go back to Iowa and drown!
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Face the facts. You are a dying breed. You are on your way out.
A lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from "tough guy" non-intellectual homophobic macho types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.
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We as a society intellectualy castrate males, and then we wonder why they can't cope as adults. See the link below.
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1817260,00.html?imw=Y
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Another sign of THE PUSSIFICATION OF AMERICA. Yuppie parents babying their kids into adulthood and then paying their rents in trendy neighborhoods as they pursue their "art". Ignorant, spoiled, pompous shitbags. Don't fucking step on my toes in MY neighborhood or I will beat you down and not lose any sleep over it.
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Well "Big Jim", in that case maybe you should go out and do your job delivering my mail instead of ranting on this site.
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I said an iced mocha asshole!
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Your monthly copies of Urban Dick Smoker and Condo Queens are at the post office. Come pick them up.
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What the hell is wrong with these kids, are they brain dead. I don't know about you but when I was a kid growing up in Queens, the one thing you dreamed of was getting the hell out of this dump. We all wanted to move to Florida or a suburb and actually enjoy life outside of the gutter.
Williamsburg is a dump, it always has been and despite all the art galleries it always will be. This Hipster thing will pass and Williamsburg will go back to being the dump. Look at the cost of living in NY coupled with the failing economy, do you think these kids will be able to afford to live here. Once shit hits the fan, they will be running for their lives out of NY when all the thugs start mugging them. Can't say I didn't warn you, Brooklyn is a craphole, it always will be.
If your smart you will move upstate where houses are cheap and its safe. You don't want to be in NY when the economy collapses and its everyone for themselves. I remember the 70's and it was rough. I doubt these little fuckers remember those days, most of them weren't even born.
I repeat, shits about to hit the fan, get out of NY while you can. The state of things in this country are very similar to the 70's and that was a period of some bad bad things in NY.
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"Brooklyn is a craphole, it always will be"
A survey of the different neighborhoods in Brooklyn will show you that the exact opposite is true, compared to 30 years ago...despite what some people will have you believe, or wish were true.
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30 years ago it was a fine place.
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Yeah well we all know the people with my view have long been gentrified away from Brooklyn. I mean everywhere is great when life is a party paid for by mom and dad.
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If you hate the pretentious hipsters in NYC, you'd despise their culture in Portland. Portland is terminal with that shit. I'm a queer living in Portland who finds the hipsters annoying so it can't just be a homophobic meathead phenomenon.
So do us a favor. Keep them there. We've got more than enough.
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Like it or not, the modern hipster movement is here to stay. Deal with it. It was something that was started over 15 years ago by creative types in Williamsburg and has spread into the mainstream. Basically anyone who embraces a youthful and edgy urban style, who enjoys going to rock shows and divey-type bars is labeled a hipster these days. These people represent a significant fraction of the under-30 population in this city who enjoy keeping up with the latest in nightlife, music, art, and culture. Hipterism is the new mainstream, and basically anyone with a healthy and active social life is a "hipster". It's irrelevant whether hipsters truly re-invented certain elements of culture and style, or if they're just cultural consumers and social leeches like others would retort. It's simply the new reality.
This group of people labeled "hipsters" don't actually refer to themselves as "hipsters", and they certainly don't care what is thought of them by anonymous CL trolls. Whatever you want to label it, "hipster" culture is thriving and spreading in NYC. "Hipsters" are out partying, enjoying life, meeting new friends, and probably getting laid while the anti-hipster hate mongerers are sitting alone behind their computer screens resenting anyone else out there who is out having fun. I'm pretty sure the group of people labeled "hipsters" would much rather prefer doing whatever they're doing, than to switch places with the anti-hipsters on here.
Judging from their comments, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from "tough guy" non-intellectual homophobic macho types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. At some point in their lives they probably got mocked and ridiculed, or even had beer poured all over their heads, by some downtown girl with a tattoo (aka "hipster") after trying to pull some lame move on them. If you think about it, in some ways the entire hipster revolution came about to mock and ridicule such people and their mentalities. It's not about meat and muscle anymore. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.
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Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant (cut 'n paste) about anti-hipsters.
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No movement is ever "here to stay". That's what makes them movements.
Most hipsters hit a certain age and BOOM, they become as boring and common as the rest of us. You can't predict what the new generation will consider cutting edge. It could be fast food, the suburbs and driving a mini-van.
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Today's hipsters are tomorrow's yuppies. The transformation has already begun among some of the older ones (e.g., late 20s, early 30s). Look carefully at the next young yuppie mom you see and you might spy a couple of tattoos discreetly half-hidden under her clothes.
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That's what she said!
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Like it or not, the giant dildo movement in my ass is here to stay. Deal with it. It was something that was started over 15 years ago by my yuppie parents in the suburbs and has spread up my asshole. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the way they flock to trends.
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Hey Trey,
Here is a message from Brooklyn's own Type O Negative. Your a waste -of-life, waste-of-life. Now give that message to all the cupcake NY wannabes from Boston and tell them to get the fuck off and butt fuck themselves to death. Do us all a favor and suck some crackhead with aids dick so you get aids.
I hate you New England cocksuckers. Your all so pretentious and so fucking gay. My sister when to college at BC and I always felt like the whole city was some homosexual experiment. Do us a favor buddy boy, move back to Mass because your the gayest guy on earth.
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It's a good thing you're not pretentious enough to know how to spell; it's "you're all so...", not "your..." Don't they have schools in Brooklyn?
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Hey Trey,
Do you have a job because its seems like your there to respond to every anti-hipsters rant on the net. Now that we know your name, I think we should do a page all about you. Brooklyn (and Brooklynites in excile like myself) would love to know everything about you.
We would love to see the nice house in Mass you grew up in, we also would love to get to know the real you. I think it would be a testament to the new Brooklyn and would also help get you laid until women go back to Muscle guys soon.
Kaz Borysewicz, Canarsie native
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I'm probably showing my old age here, but what on god's earth is a "Look Book?" I can't figure out what it is or what its purpose is
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There we go, the spelling police. Jesus Hipster Christ you spelled something wrong and you must pay for it. Your to uncool and uncultured to even smell the air in my Brooklyn.....now where is that cut and paste document, I think I lost it
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Check,maybe it's up YOUR ass?
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I did, the only thing in my ass was your penis and its small. By the way, can you come over at 6, me and the Hipsters are going to have an orgy and we need your small cock to make ours look big. Yep, my mom and dad just sent me $5000 dollars and I ended up buying some dildos. Anyways, best not let things go to waste, you ready for some skinny little man on man action sexy.
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